Dick Pound, the longest-serving member of the IOC, estimates there's a three-month window to decide the fate of the Tokyo Olympics, which are being threatened by the fast-spreading virus from China.
Pound, in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press, did not sound alarmist. But he did speak frankly about the risks facing the Olympics, which open July 24.
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Dick Pound, the longest-serving member of the IOC, estimates there's a three-month window to decide the fate of the Tokyo Olympics, which are being threatened by the fast-spreading virus from China.
“You could certainly go to two months out if you had to,” Pound said, which would mean putting off a decision until late May and hoping the virus is under control. “A lot of things have to start happening. You've got to start ramping up your security, your food, the Olympic Village, the hotels, The media folks will be in there building their studios.”
China on Tuesday reported 508 new cases and another 71 deaths, 68 of them in the central city of Wuhan, where the epidemic was first detected in December. The updates bring mainland China's totals to 77,658 cases and 2,663 deaths. South Korea now has the second-most cases in the world with 977, including 10 deaths. Clusters of the illness are now appearing in the Middle East and Europe. This could signal a new stage in the spread of the virus with four deaths reported in Japan.
The modern Olympics dating from 1896 have only been cancelled during wartime, and faced boycotts in 1976 in Montreal, in 1980 in Moscow and 1984 in Los Angeles — all in Pound's memory.
“It's a big, big, big decision and you just can't take it until you have reliable facts on which to base it,” Pound said. He said whatever advice the IOC is now getting, "it doesn't call for cancellation or postponement of the Olympics. You just don't postpone something on the size and scale of the Olympics. There's so many moving parts, so many countries and different seasons, and competitive seasons, and television seasons. You can't just say, we'll do it in October.”
“To move the place is difficult because there are few places in the world that could think of gearing up facilities in that short time to put something on," Pound said.
Staying in Tokyo but moving it back a few months would be unlikely to satisfy North American broadcasters, whose schedules are full in the fall with American football, college football, European soccer, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey. Of course, other world broadcasters also have jammed schedules.
“Then you have to ask if you can hold the bubble together for an extra year,” Pound said. “Then of course you have to fit all of this into the entire international sports schedule.”
“It's not an insurable risk and it's not one that can be attributed to one or the other of the parties. So everybody takes their lumps. There would be a lack of revenue on the Olympic Movement side."
Pound said the future of the Tokyo Games was largely out of the IOC's hands, depending on the virus and if it abets.
Pound has been an International Olympic Committee member since 1978, 13 years longer than current President Thomas Bach.
Tourists wear masks as they pause for photos with the New National Stadium, a venue for the opening and closing ceremonies at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, Sunday, Feb. 23, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
“You could certainly go to two months out if you had to,” Pound said, which would mean putting off a decision until late May and hoping the virus is under control. “A lot of things have to start happening. You've got to start ramping up your security, your food, the Olympic Village, the hotels, The media folks will be in there building their studios.”
And if it got to the point of not going ahead, Pound speculated “you're probably looking at a cancellation."
"This is the new war and you have to face it. In and around that time, I'd say folks are going to have to ask: ‘Is this under sufficient control that we can be confident about going to Tokyo, or not?'”
A boy with a mask poses with an Olympic torch of the Tokyo 2020 Olympics while visiting Tokyo Olympic Museum, Sunday, Feb. 23, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
China on Tuesday reported 508 new cases and another 71 deaths, 68 of them in the central city of Wuhan, where the epidemic was first detected in December. The updates bring mainland China's totals to 77,658 cases and 2,663 deaths. South Korea now has the second-most cases in the world with 977, including 10 deaths. Clusters of the illness are now appearing in the Middle East and Europe. This could signal a new stage in the spread of the virus with four deaths reported in Japan.
Pound encouraged athletes to keep training. About 11,000 are expected for the Olympics, and another 4,400 for the Paralympics, which open on Aug. 25.
“As far as we all know you're going to be in Tokyo,” Pound said. “All indications are at this stage that it will be business as usual. So keep focused on your sport and be sure that the IOC is not going to send you into a pandemic situation."
A security guard with a mask stands in front of a tunnel leading to the field of the New National Stadium, a venue for the opening and closing ceremonies at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, Sunday, Feb. 23, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
The modern Olympics dating from 1896 have only been cancelled during wartime, and faced boycotts in 1976 in Montreal, in 1980 in Moscow and 1984 in Los Angeles — all in Pound's memory.
The Olympics in 1940 were to be in Tokyo, but were called off because of Japan's war with China and World War II.
Pound called uncertainty a major problem and repeated the IOC's stance — that it's depending on consultations with the World Health Organization, a United Nations body, to make any move. So far, the games are on.
A woman looks at displays at the newly opened Tokyo Olympic Museum located near the New National Stadium, Sunday, Feb. 23, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
“It's a big, big, big decision and you just can't take it until you have reliable facts on which to base it,” Pound said. He said whatever advice the IOC is now getting, "it doesn't call for cancellation or postponement of the Olympics. You just don't postpone something on the size and scale of the Olympics. There's so many moving parts, so many countries and different seasons, and competitive seasons, and television seasons. You can't just say, we'll do it in October.”
If changes have to be made, Pound said every option faced obstacles.
Pound said moving to another city seemed unlikely.
A man walks in front of the Tokyo Metropolitan Government building adorned with large banners promoting the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and Paralympics, Tuesday, Feb. 25, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
“To move the place is difficult because there are few places in the world that could think of gearing up facilities in that short time to put something on," Pound said.
London mayoral candidate Shaun Bailey has suggested the British capital as an alternative. Tokyo Gov. Yuriko Koike suggested that was an inappropriate offer, using the virus as political campaign fodder.
Pound said he would not favor a dispersal of events over various venues because that wouldn't “constitute an Olympic Games. You'd end up with a series of world championships.” He said it would be very difficult to spread around all these sports in a 17-day period with only a few month's notice.
People wait in line to take pictures with the Olympic rings near the New National Stadium, Sunday, Feb. 23, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
Staying in Tokyo but moving it back a few months would be unlikely to satisfy North American broadcasters, whose schedules are full in the fall with American football, college football, European soccer, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey. Of course, other world broadcasters also have jammed schedules.
“It would be tough to get the kind of blanket coverage that people expect around the Olympic Games,” Pound said. “It's certainly tougher than it would have been in 1964 in Tokyo when you didn't have the saturation sports schedule on television.”
How about delaying for a year, but staying in Tokyo? Japan is officially spending $12.6 billion to organize the Olympics, although a national audit board says the country is spending twice that much.
A man with a mask walks past large displays promoting the Tokyo 2020 Olympics Monday, Feb. 24, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
“Then you have to ask if you can hold the bubble together for an extra year,” Pound said. “Then of course you have to fit all of this into the entire international sports schedule.”
Pound said the IOC has been building up an “emergency fund” for such circumstances, reported to be about $1 billion. That could fund international sports federations who depend on income from the IOC to operate — and the IOC itself.
“This would be what you normally call a force majeure,” said Pound, a Canadian lawyer by training, using the legal phrase for “unforeseeable circumstances.”
People take pictures in front of the Japanese national team's opening ceremony uniforms for the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and Paralympics Sunday, Feb. 23, 2020, in Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
“It's not an insurable risk and it's not one that can be attributed to one or the other of the parties. So everybody takes their lumps. There would be a lack of revenue on the Olympic Movement side."
He said broadcasters may have their own insurance that would “mitigate some of the losses.”
About 73% of the IOC's $5.7 billion income in a four-year Olympic cycle is from broadcast rights.
The Olympics rings are reflected on the window of a hotel restaurant as a server with a mask sets up a table Monday, Feb. 24, 2020, in the Odaiba section of Tokyo. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong)
Pound said the future of the Tokyo Games was largely out of the IOC's hands, depending on the virus and if it abets.
“If it gets to be something like the Spanish Flu,” Pound said, referring to a deadly pandemic early in the 20th century that killed millions. “At that level of lethality, then everybody's got to take their medicine.”
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A woman removes her mask before taking pictures with the mascots of the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and Paralympics in Tokyo, Feb. 18, 2020. (AP PhotoJae C. Hong, File)