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Lily Collins, Zac Efron take on the Ted Bundy story

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Lily Collins, Zac Efron take on the Ted Bundy story
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Lily Collins, Zac Efron take on the Ted Bundy story

2019-05-02 12:14 Last Updated At:12:20

There is hardly any violence in the Ted Bundy movie "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile," which premieres on Netflix Friday and stars Zac Efron as the notorious serial killer. It was a deliberate choice on the part of filmmaker, Joe Berlinger, now something of a Bundy scholar with this fictionalized film and his popular Netflix documentary series, "Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes."

Berlinger believes that recreations of crimes have a "numbing effect" that desensitizes audiences.

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This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, right, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, right, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

Plus, "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile" is told from the point of view of Bundy's girlfriend, Elizabeth (Liz) Kloepfer, a single mom who dated Bundy for about six years starting in 1969 and through some of his trials. He was executed on death row in 1989.

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

Kloepfer believes in his innocence even while everything seems to point to the contrary.

"It's based on what Liz would have seen, which is nothing," said actress Lily Collins, who plays the part of Kloepfer. "In order to make the audience feel like they're in the mindset of Liz at the very end of the movie, you have to earn that. And it almost heightens the anxiety because you're teetering on the edge of 'is he or isn't he guilty?'"

Collins and Efron decided to take the leap into the darkness of this story together. The two have been friends for over a decade, going to back to when Collins was a teenage Nickelodeon reporter interviewing Efron and the cast of "High School Musical" on the orange carpet.

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, right, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, right, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

"We had talked about what type of projects we both wanted to do down the line," Collins said. "It was really exciting for me to see him taking that risk, and I thought to be a part of that felt really natural and very exciting."

Efron had his hesitations about taking the role.

"I had heavy reservations about playing a serial killer, especially one so popular as Ted Bundy," Efron said. "I didn't want to glorify or be a part of a project that glorifies any aspect of Ted Bundy or what he did. Nor am I interested in telling something just because it was true or shocking."

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

But the script, which Michael Werwie adapted from Klopfer's 1981 memoir, "The Phantom Prince: My Life with Ted Bundy," was different than he expected.

"I liked the idea of bringing attention to the element of Ted Bundy that was so charismatic, and who was able to win over the world and yet be so evil and duplicitous," Efron said. "I got to really take a look and feel it and it was very uncomfortable."

Collins was able to meet and spend time with Kloepfer and her daughter, who told her stories about their time with Bundy.

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

This April 22, 2019 photo shows Zac Efron, left, and Lily Collins posing for a portrait at the Four Seasons Hotel in Los Angeles to promote their film "Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, and Vile". (Photo by Rebecca CabageInvisionAP)

"There was so much love and so much trust between the two of them (Bundy and Kloepfer), or so-called trust," Collins said. "There are these two worlds that I think were really important to show in the film because that's the truth of it. The reality is that there were happy times. She was leaning so far into those happy times that she didn't see the other side until later, in the trials."

Neither Efron nor Collins are fans of the true-crime genre, which is booming on streaming services and in podcasts, but they understand why it's so popular. Efron noted that the Bundy case, which was televised nationally in the United States, may have helped contribute to the current obsession.

And both are sure they couldn't have taken something like this on any earlier in their lives.

"Honestly, if you would have asked me to try and do this a few years ago I don't think I would have been capable," Efron said. "I don't think I would've come out with solid product."

It's an experiment that has been paying off. Since the film's premiere at the Sundance Film Festival earlier this year, both have gotten critical praise for their performances, especially Efron's unsettlingly natural and transfixing portrayal of Bundy.

They're grateful, too, to have each other to bounce creative aspirations off of.

"People who are our age who are still around in the area and want to do constructive things?" Efron said. "It's not a lot of people."

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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — A hard-line cleric leading Friday prayers in Iran's capital demanded the death penalty for protesters detained in a nationwide crackdown and directly threatened U.S. President Donald Trump, showing the hard-line rage gripping the Islamic Republic after the demonstrations.

Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami's sermon carried by Iranian state radio sparked chants from those gathered for prayers, including: “Armed hypocrites should be put to death!” Executions, as well as the killing of peaceful protesters, had been two of the red lines laid down by Trump for possible military action against Iran over the protests.

Khatami's remarks also offered the first nationwide counts of damage done during the demonstrations, which began Dec. 28 over Iran's ailing economy and soon morphed into demonstrations directly challenging the country's theocracy.

Iran cut off access to the internet Jan. 8 and intensified a bloody crackdown on all dissent, which the U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency reports killed at least 2,677 people. The Associated Press has been unable to independently assess the death toll and Iran has offered no overall casualty figures.

Khatami, appointed by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and a member of both the country's Assembly of Experts and Guardian Council, described the protesters at time as the “butlers” of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and “Trump's soldiers.” He insisted their plans “had imagined disintegrating the country”

“They should wait for hard revenge from the system,” Khatami said of Netanyahu and Trump. “Americans and Zionists should not expect peace.”

Khatami long has been known for his hard-line views in Iran, including in 2007 when he said a fatwa calling for the death of writer Salman Rushdie remained in effect. He also threatened Israel in a 2018 speech by saying Iran could “raze Tel Aviv and Haifa to the ground” with its missile arsenal.

Khatami also provided the first overall statistics on damage from the protests, claiming 350 mosques, 126 prayer halls and 20 other holy places had sustained damage. Another 80 homes of Friday prayer leaders — an important position within Iran's theocracy — also had been damaged, likely underlining the anger demonstrators felt toward symbols of the country's government.

Khatami said 400 hospitals, 106 ambulance, 71 fire department vehicles and another 50 emergency vehicles sustained damage, showing the scale of the protests.

“They want you to withdraw from religion,” Khatami said. “They planned these crimes from a long time ago,"

Khatami, as a cleric in the public positions, would have access to such data from authorities and mentioning it at Friday prayers likely meant Iran's government wanted the information to be communicated without having to formally address the public. He also issued a call for the arrest of “individuals who supporters the rioters in any way.”

FILE - Iranian senior cleric Ahmad Khatami delivers his sermon during Friday prayer ceremony in Tehran, Iran, Friday, Jan. 5, 2018. (AP Photo/Ebrahim Noroozi, File)

FILE - Iranian senior cleric Ahmad Khatami delivers his sermon during Friday prayer ceremony in Tehran, Iran, Friday, Jan. 5, 2018. (AP Photo/Ebrahim Noroozi, File)

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